09:07:35 From Calcutt, Jacob : https://fifewiki.fnal.gov/wiki/Spack 09:08:16 From Tom Junk : https://fifewiki.fnal.gov/wiki/Spack 09:08:59 From Heidi Schellman's laptop : For DUNE should this work on any gpvm or do we need to log into a special? 09:09:12 From Calcutt, Jacob : I believe Marc said dunebuild03 09:09:15 From Steven Timm : Dunegpvm16 is also an alma9 machine with this stuff on there. 09:09:35 From Steven Timm : I think you need an alma9 machine to work the tutorail 09:09:57 From Heidi Schellman's laptop : Yes, Marc said that but we need to be specific since most people don’t know which machine has which OS and what OS we’re supposed to be using. 09:10:56 From Brett Viren : Should the screen be getting shared? 09:11:25 From Steven Timm : https://fifewiki.fnal.gov/wiki/Spack_Tutorial 09:11:31 From Tom Junk : LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not the only path that explodes. 09:15:02 From Barnali Chowdhury : @Heidi Schellman : AL9 nodes are preferred.  If you do spack find, you will see that SL7 packages are not on the list. I am not sure though if they recently changed the tutorial. 09:15:18 From Heidi Schellman's laptop : ok, so noting that users need to test on build03, gpvm16 or lxplus 09:16:38 From Heidi Schellman's laptop : Also - fifewiki is protected by service password - how do non-fnal people see this documentation. 09:20:33 From Michael Kirby : Replying to "Also - fifewiki is p..." How do non-fnal people learn how to use Spack on fnal machines? Step 1. become non-non-fnal person. ;-) 09:24:31 From Calcutt, Jacob : Much cleaner than ups depend 🙏 09:26:35 From Heidi Schellman's laptop : Replying to "Also - fifewiki is p..." People also run at CERN, quite a few, and many have problems navigating the Fermilab account system. It seems to be stabilizing but remains a pain for non-us nationals. 09:27:33 From Heidi Schellman's laptop : Replying to "Also - fifewiki is p..." We need to request federated identity access for that wiki. 09:27:48 From Heidi Schellman's laptop : Replying to "Also - fifewiki is p..." Of course our wiki also has that issue, 09:40:40 From Heidi Schellman's laptop : The lock file thing needs a comment in the wiki on what the heck it is for, 09:44:46 From Heidi Schellman's laptop : spack cd --env nulite-3-15-04-gcc-12-2-0-cxx17-prof-gcc-11-4-1 09:45:08 From Heidi Schellman's laptop : is the directory that would work for us? 10:06:39 From Tom Junk : alias larspack='source /cvmfs/larsoft.opensciencegrid.org/spack-packages/setup-env.sh' 10:31:27 From Matteo Tenti : I get this: mtenti@dunebuild01:NULL$ cd /build/scratch/scratch/containers/$USER bash: cd: /build/scratch/scratch/containers/mtenti: File o directory non esistente 10:31:52 From Matteo Tenti : mtenti@dunebuild01:NULL$ pwd /build/scratch/containers/mtenti/my_spack/spack/default/NULL mtenti@dunebuild01:NULL$ hostname -f dunebuild01.fnal.gov 10:32:44 From Heidi Schellman's laptop : I’m doing this in my own area on gpvm16 and getting: 10:33:00 From Heidi Schellman's laptop : ==> Error: CompilerAccessError: Compiler 'gcc@=11.4.1' has executables that are missing or are not executable: ['/usr/bin/g++', '/usr/bin/gfortran'] ==> Error: py-black-23.11.0-m2al57lscpr4ug75ubecjjsfcl5gyhj3: Package was not installed ==> Error: Installation request failed. Refer to reported errors for failing pa 10:33:16 From Heidi Schellman's laptop : Maybe my issue is that we depend on an rpm? 10:33:24 From Heidi Schellman's laptop : that does not exist on gpvm16 10:33:57 From Barnali Chowdhury : I am logged in dunebuild03 and working in /build/scratch/container/barnali area is working fine for me (without /scratch/scratch) 10:36:43 From Michael Kirby : ==> Error: 'name' 10:39:05 From Michael Kirby : spack install py-black ^python@3.9.15/kh4wvqb ==> Warning: Ignoring write error on readonly /cvmfs/larsoft.opensciencegrid.org/.bootstrap.almalinux9/config/linux/bootstrap.yaml ==> Warning: Ignoring write error on readonly /cvmfs/larsoft.opensciencegrid.org/.bootstrap.almalinux9/config/linux/config.yaml ==> Error: 'name' 10:40:23 From Michael Kirby : File "/build/scratch/containers/kirby/my_spack/spack/default/NULL/lib/spack/spack/provider_index.py", line 244, in spack.spec.SpecfileV4.from_node_dict(vpkg), File "/build/scratch/containers/kirby/my_spack/spack/default/NULL/lib/spack/spack/spec.py", line 5004, in from_node_dict name, node = cls.name_and_data(node) File "/build/scratch/containers/kirby/my_spack/spack/default/NULL/lib/spack/spack/spec.py", line 5204, in name_and_data return node["name"], node KeyError: 'name' 10:44:51 From Barnali Chowdhury : @Michael Kirby : spack install py-black python@3.9.15/kh4wvqb… this command line without ^ before python worked for me. 10:58:06 From Michael Kirby : Replying to "@Michael Kirby : spa..." Thanks for the suggestion. I have tried again from a fresh terminal and directory, but gotten the same error. I’m gonna move my bash history over to the slack, and see if others have similar success or failures. 10:59:22 From Michael Kirby : Thanks for the help everyone. I’m gonna call it a day. 10:59:53 From Michael Kirby : Thanks so much for the tutorial, and have a great weekend! 11:24:34 From Ken Herner : Simple Storage Service 11:24:47 From Ken Herner : As Marc said, came out of AWS 11:49:37 From Brett Viren : https://app.slack.com/client/T03RN7KU3/C06M2R1KE5V